kolkhozi: prussia of Axis Powers Hetalia, with his eyes covered by a hand coming from offscreen (presumably Russia's) (b frowns on your shenanigans [DN])
Aisu ([personal profile] kolkhozi) wrote2009-04-11 04:27 am

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HEY HEY P4 LIKING PEOPLE HEY

A friend and I were talking about P4's True End on AIM and came to... interesting conclusions, and I figured I'd share and see what you guys had to say maybe? IDK



to the kolkhoz (4:21:15 AM): I found it odd how :/ Souji seemed to be even then
to the kolkhoz (4:21:21 AM): I mean I know he has to be silent but
to the kolkhoz (4:21:30 AM): I think he... is kinda hollow?
Madarahime (4:21:52 AM): I think that's the quality that made him be able to do what he did lol
Madarahime (4:22:02 AM): But yeah, I had the same feeling
Madarahime (4:22:28 AM): Not even a tear shed when these people all just... you know...
to the kolkhoz (4:22:31 AM): *nod*
to the kolkhoz (4:22:50 AM): I'm with the manga - he moves around so often that he DOESN'T LET himself attach
to the kolkhoz (4:23:10 AM): ...hoshi what if HE was emptiness in the trio Izanami went on about
Madarahime (4:23:21 AM): I wondered a bit
Madarahime (4:23:23 AM): if he was
to the kolkhoz (4:23:33 AM): but Adachi isn't hope so much as
to the kolkhoz (4:23:38 AM): constant annoyance
Madarahime (4:24:01 AM): What was the other one?
to the kolkhoz (4:24:25 AM): Despair
to the kolkhoz (4:24:41 AM): ...fuck think about it
Madarahime (4:24:43 AM): Yeah
Madarahime (4:24:45 AM): Exactly
Madarahime (4:24:46 AM): lol
to the kolkhoz (4:24:49 AM): what's his name Kira hoped to save people and keep them safe
to the kolkhoz (4:24:59 AM): Adachi's all THE WORLD SUCKS IT WILL ALWAYS SUCK FUCKING SUCKY SUCK SUCK
Madarahime (4:25:02 AM): Exactly.
to the kolkhoz (4:25:04 AM): and Souji is :|
to the kolkhoz (4:25:13 AM): so hope lost? shit lol
Madarahime (4:25:17 AM): lol
to the kolkhoz (4:25:31 AM): CONGRATS HUMANITY YOU WIN EMPTINESS
Madarahime (4:25:55 AM): AND AN EXISTENCE BASED ON LIES
to the kolkhoz (4:26:01 AM): GOOD JORB

I'm not sure exactly how to make it work (maybe Souji's s-linked based victory shows that humanity is able to forge fake bonds no matter how hollow they are, idk), but... somehow the trio always kind of bugged me, because Adachi's not empty. Hell, he's constantly angry that he can't be, if anything.

Thoughts, guys? idk this is just rambling it is 4:30 AM and I should not be posting.

[identity profile] pana.livejournal.com 2009-04-11 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, this just came up while talking to Igor, regarding the Fool:

"It is like the number zero... empty, yet holding infinite potential within itself."

Reply: "Empty..?"

"The Persona ability is the power to control one's own heart... and the heart is strengthened through bonds. As you form bonds by becoming involved with others, your own Social Links will gradually develop. The power of these Social Links is what will determine your Persona's abilities."

It looks like Igor confirms that you're empty, and it's those around you who give you that power to change the world. I didn't think anything of it during the first play, haha.

[identity profile] madelineusher.livejournal.com 2009-04-12 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I hadn't thought about that! I'm pretty sure you get a similar speech in P3, but it doesn't change the interesting aspects of it. All that catalyzes Souji, all that motivates him, is external - social links and the like. He's so completely shaped by those around him, and part of that is gameplay, but really...